nahid

Feb 19, 2021 15:52

Our prophet (pbuh) was Salafi/ sunni/ Shia etc??

He was Muslim.......only

Zubeyr

Feb 19, 2021 16:11

Nahid .all the Prophets were Muslims and ours too. And he said that they should follow him and his companions and be Salafis. but you cannot understand it!

nahid

Feb 20, 2021 00:17

@Zubeyr

When you say " I have no knowledge" you made an assumption is big sin
Quran 49:12 : Assumes are sin

I am giving you reference from Quran

In Quran there is no Salafis / Sunni/Shia
all these are man made to create division only

All prophet were only Muslim,

Sunni and Shia are only political division to take authority

Quran
006.159
"Indeed, those who divide their religion and break up into sects, you have no part with them in the least: their affair is with God: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they used to do"


Allah give you all guidance to understand true Islam

Zubeyr

Feb 20, 2021 01:31

Nahid .on yours I understood that you follow only Kuran, right?

Salafia中国

Feb 20, 2021 04:19

@Zubeyr

JazakaLlahu Khairen!

nahid

Feb 20, 2021 10:07

@ Zubeyr

Is there any authentic book better than Quran to follow?

Hadith are not word of God and Hadith were written after 270 years later.....
Do you have any idea about all these history.

I can give reference from Quran as I given, the people you talk none can provide any reference what you talking, all your talks are only from your mind there is " free will of human" and easily can be manipulated by devil inspiration.


Instead of creating confusion, read some genuine book like Quran and lets make a gentle discussion

Many of you do not know that Arab was Oral tradition, not written, I suggest you have some time read some Islamic history written
early Islamic ages to get real flavor of Islam.


Yes, I give you reward, you are winner, okay ? This is what nowadays so called muslim want to get...

Zubeyr

Feb 20, 2021 18:33

Nahid iblis. understandably. Then you can follow the Torah or the Bible. and best of all, you should follow the buddha. so follow the torah or the bible. they are the words of God. but you are not following Kuran. you follow your dirty passion. so your faith is like the faith of any atheist.

Zubeyr

Feb 20, 2021 18:34

Uhti .و إياك أختي الكريمة

nahid

Feb 21, 2021 08:34

@Zubeyr
Thanks to judge me as Iblis and atheist
where as Justice belongs to Allah only and Qura 49:12 says assumes are sin.
You did not come in a discussion with proper reference , you just attacking me personally ......is it Islamic teaching?

This women condition for marriage:

Condition 1. Perfect Match: Born/Converted Sunni Muslim (Salafi /Ahlul Assunah)(required)

Answer: Quran says do not sect religion
Quran
006.159
"Indeed, those who divide their religion and break up into sects, you have no part with them in the least: their affair is with God: He will in the end tell them the truth of all that they used to do"

My suggestion re-read Quran

Condition 2:
Details: Knowledgeable religiously, keen on learning, proper bearded (without cutting), WILLING/ABLE to make Hijrah to a Muslim country, ...

Answer:
In marriage women/ wife has the obligation to follow husband, its not the wife who will tell husband what to do or not or where he would go and live...usually men live with his family and wife also follow husband.
Now this woman is asking to leave out your family or everything and listen what I am saying and move in a Muslim country

It is opposite of Islamic marriage principle

My suggestion is to re-read Islamic marriage principle and follow up accordingly


You dont trust me, but you trust Hadith, right ? See below

According to Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 28
MOST WOMEN WILL GO TO HELL

Because women are mostly ungrateful to husband and good things

Zubeyr

Feb 21, 2021 10:03

Rejecting Sunnah - Kafir

Question: "What is the position of the one who rejects the Sunnah?"

Sheikh al-Barrak (حَفِظَهُ الله):

“Whoever rejects the Sunnah completely is a Kafir (infidel). Allah Most Pure! Everywhere in the Qur'an it is said: “Obey Allah and obey the messenger” (24:54), “Follow him, so that you follow the straight path” (7: 158). All this is the reason for the Sunnah. “The Messenger of Allah was a wonderful example for you” (33:21), “Believe in Allah and His Messenger” (64: 8). That is, the one who rejects the Sunnah rejects all this, and does not oblige either to obey the messenger or follow him. "

Zubeyr

Feb 21, 2021 10:03

Rejecting Sunnah - Kafir

Question: "What is the position of the one who rejects the Sunnah?"

Sheikh al-Barrak (حَفِظَهُ الله):

“Whoever rejects the Sunnah completely is a Kafir (infidel). Allah Most Pure! Everywhere in the Qur'an it is said: “Obey Allah and obey the messenger” (24:54), “Follow him, so that you follow the straight path” (7: 158). All this is the reason for the Sunnah. “The Messenger of Allah was a wonderful example for you” (33:21), “Believe in Allah and His Messenger” (64: 8). That is, the one who rejects the Sunnah rejects all this, and does not oblige either to obey the messenger or follow him. "

Zubeyr

Feb 21, 2021 10:03

Rejecting Sunnah - Kafir

Question: "What is the position of the one who rejects the Sunnah?"

Sheikh al-Barrak (حَفِظَهُ الله):

“Whoever rejects the Sunnah completely is a Kafir (infidel). Allah Most Pure! Everywhere in the Qur'an it is said: “Obey Allah and obey the messenger” (24:54), “Follow him, so that you follow the straight path” (7: 158). All this is the reason for the Sunnah. “The Messenger of Allah was a wonderful example for you” (33:21), “Believe in Allah and His Messenger” (64: 8). That is, the one who rejects the Sunnah rejects all this, and does not oblige either to obey the messenger or follow him. "

Zubeyr

Feb 21, 2021 10:06

(the Qur'an) to become a warning exhortator for the worlds. " [Sura al-Furqan, ayat 1].

Sheikh Muhammad ibn Aman al-Jami (may Allah have mercy on him) explains:

If you say: “I testify that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah,” then by this you testify that he is a messenger who cannot be considered a liar. Whoever considers him to be a liar becomes an unbelieving apostate.

The messenger must obey, and whoever does not obey him commits sin. This sin sometimes reaches the level of unbelief (kufra), and sometimes it does not. It is necessary to obey him absolutely in everything. Among the creations there is no one else, except him, to whom it is necessary to obey absolutely in everything, without exception. Allah Almighty said: “O you who believe! Obey Allah, obey the Messenger and those with influence among you. " [Surah an-Nisa, ayat 59].

The word "obey" is mentioned before Allah and His Messenger, in order to indicate that they need to obey absolutely in everything. If the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ordered you to do something or forbade you to do something, then you must obey him without asking: "Is this in the Koran ?!" In favor of the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) the Lord testified to him: “He does not speak on a whim. This is just a revelation that is being suggested. " [Surah an-Najm, verses 3-4].

Allah Almighty reported that obedience to the messenger is obedience to Allah, and disobedience of the messenger is disobedience to Allah *.

* [Allah Almighty said: "Whoever obeyed the Messenger, he obeyed Allah." (Sura al-Nisa, ayah 80).
Anyone who obeys the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), carrying out his orders and not violating his prohibitions, in fact obeys Allah Most High, since the Messenger of God commands and prohibits only in accordance with the commands and laws of Allah, guided by His revelation and scripture. Allah ordered to obey in everything the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), which means that he was protected from mistakes when he conveyed the message of his Lord to people. Otherwise, Allah would not order His slaves to obey him implicitly and would not praise those who do so].

Sometimes in the purest Sunnah come such Shari'a laws, which are not in the Quran. For example, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) on the day of Khaybar forbade the use of domestic donkeys *. The Companions obeyed this prohibition. They didn’t say: "There is no such prohibition in the Koran!" They obeyed and considered this meat forbidden to themselves.

* [It is reported that Salama bin al-Akwa ', may Allah be pleased with him, said in a long hadith: “And on the evening of the day when we defeated them, (the people) kindled many fires, and the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) , asked: “What are these bonfires? Why are you kindling them? " (The people) said, "(To cook) the meat." (The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) asked: "What meat?" (The people) said, "Donkey meat." Then the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) ordered: "Pour (this brew) and break (the cauldrons)!" Narrated by al-Bukhari, 4196; Muslim, 1802].

Also, the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade marrying a girl and her aunt at the same time. The Companions obeyed and did not say: "We have not found such a prohibition in the Koran!" They obeyed and considered it forbidden for themselves.
The people who call themselves the Coranites are a failed sect. They appeared in India and then spread to some Arab countries. They called themselves the Qur'anites, for they perform acts only in accordance with the Qur'an. Indeed, they lied! How can they perform acts in accordance with the Koran, without referring to the Sunnah ?! They will have to give up prayer, fasting, and Hajj. Indeed, a detailed description of prayer, fasting and Hajj came precisely in the Sunnah. The Qur'an says, "Stand up for prayer." And where to get the description of the prayer ?! For example, a description of a prayer came in a hadith about a person who prayed badly, and we discussed this a little higher. All this detailed description is contained in the sunnah. How do the Qur'anites pray only in accordance with the Qur'an ?! It's impossible! A person can worship Allah only when he relies on the Quran and Sunnah together. Allah Almighty said: “O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger. " [Surah an-Nisa, verse 59]
The Qur'an commanded people to obey the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), who explained this Qur'an to people. Allah Almighty said: "And We sent down a Reminder to you so that you would explain to people what was revealed to them." [Surah an-Nahl, ayat 44].
The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) explained the Quran with his words and actions. This is an explanation from Allah as well as the Qur'an *. Even if the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said something that is not in the Qur'an, it is still considered a revelation from Allah. Allah Almighty clarified some things in the Quran, and instilled in the revelation of the clarification of other things to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Hence, in fact, clarification from Allah.

* [Allah Almighty said: “He does not speak on a whim. This is just a revelation that is being suggested. " (Sura al-Najm, verses 3-4). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) did not make mistakes when he talked about Allah Almighty and taught Muslims His religion, because he did not speak at his own whim, but only repeated the revelation suggested to him].

The explanations of Allah and His law sometimes come in the revelation of the Qur'an, and sometimes come in the sunnah, which is also His revelation. Both of these revelations are from Allah! All this comes back to Allah. Therefore, the Book of Allah cannot be opposed to the Sunnah of His Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). There is no contradiction between them, for both the Qur'an and the Sunnah are from Allah. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) was just a mediator who brought the shariat to the people.

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Source translation of the book: "Conditions of prayer" Author of the book: Sheikh At-Tamimi (may Allah have mercy on him).
Commentary: Sheikh Muhammad ibn Aman al-Jami (may Allah have mercy on him).

nahid

Feb 21, 2021 16:06

@Zubeyr

Is there anywhere I reject Sunnah? Answer is NO, I said Hadith is not word of God. Quran is Word of God.

I gave you source Hadith were written after 270 years later.

Bukhari collected 200 000 Hadith and he rejected 195 000 and only he kept 5000 as most likely authentic..

“Obey Allah and obey the messenger” (24:54),
Now tell me why Bukhari rejected his own collection majority of Hadith?


You are telling me Iblish, Atheist, Kafir............Are you Allah or God to judge me?

If you have solid Islamic knowledge and attitude you would try to explain with politeness...........your attitude does not match with Islamic
teaching at all...

Gulam-E-Mustfa

Feb 23, 2021 05:28

.Providing Personal infos publicly can create some unwanted issues in future.. Be Aware👍