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Please share with me your opinions about this cheating in wearing clothes

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Please share with me your opinions about this cheating in wearing clothes

Finaladd Created May 22, 2020 16:24
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In order for marriage to achieve its goal, our Deen commands us in addition to her religious commitment, to look at girls whom we have intention to marry, since this secures settled life.

In real life when I sit with a girl in her home in front of her family, she will always look beautiful because her inner clothes did the engineering well and completely changed her real body features "the push up things that increase the volumes and make things firm and perky when they are not". The dark side is that nearly all girls do that hidden technique comfortably to look beautiful, forgeting our Prophet PBUH declaration that Sin is what hidden in your chest and you hated people to know. Darker yet is that they know cheating is forbidden !

Brothers and fathers in addition to mothers and girls, please share with me your opinions to suggest the proper way a girl wears in front of her man before doing Nikah contract to re pump Islamic teachings, where nobody feels discomfort.

Lots of homes were destroyed without reason but this, that Arabs said once: He left cheating one who revealed mask.

 

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Amir

May 22, 2020 21:37

.You tell them you own the rental home/car you live in/drive. That's your make up.

https://youtu.be/LJviK2YEBMU

Peace Guy

May 24, 2020 13:53

@ Finaladd

Brother, we as Muslim men are permitted to look only at what is halal for a non-related man to look at.

If you are looking at the eyes, then you are right, a woman is not allowed to put on false eyelashes.

However, If you are looking at the shape of a Muslima's figure, then you are looking at something that is haram for any man to see other than her future husband.

The whole purpose of hijab and nikab is conceal that which should not be looked upon. If you have proof of what you accuse, bring it forth so that you can be found guilty of doing that which is haram.

Please keep your eyes focused on the deen.

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Finaladd

May 24, 2020 14:59

@Peace Guy, I put my answers in line with your comments:

Brother, we as Muslim men are permitted to look only at what is halal for a non-related man to look at. @Peace Guy, this is correct as a general rule of looking at women and men both, but not at particular cases, for both also.

If you are looking at the eyes, then you are right, a woman is not allowed to put on false eyelashes. However, If you are looking at the shape of a Muslima's figure, then you are looking at something that is haram for any man to see other than her future husband. @Peace Guy, if you mean it is halal for a man -who wants to talk with particular woman to agree on their marriage- to only look at her eyes, then it is haram that you say such a phrase. Evidence? Our Prophet PBUH said: (If one of you wanted a woman "he meant for marriage", so if he could look at what it calls him to marry her, so do it).
This Hadeeth is very obvious to anybody that it is not only halal, but it is also preferred "sunnah" to the man to look at "what calls him to marry" the particular woman he wanted her if for marriage purposes, and this involves very wide options in her body !

The whole purpose of hijab and nikab is conceal that which should not be looked upon. If you have proof of what you accuse, bring it forth so that you can be found guilty of doing that which is haram. @Peace Guy, I didn't understand the last sentence.

Please keep your eyes focused on the deen. @Peace Guy, this phrase again is not in its place. We ask Allah SWT in the whole our lives to guide us to the straight path, but when Allah SWT allows us some paths in this dunya and says to us it is allowed, then when we do them, we are doing them also in the sake of Allah, as there is no any meaning from haram and halal except if Allah and Prophet say it is so, not what you feel.
There are people who saw our Prophet's worship, and thought it is little, so they decided something: one said: I fast all days and don't eat until death, the other said: I pray all night and don't sleep until death, and the third said: I don't marry women until death. When Prophet PBUH heard their saying he said: (I am the most among you who fears from Allah and most pious, but I fast and eat, pray and sleep, and marry women. That who disliked my sunnah is not from me). So, we follow whatever our deen says, not only build things on what we felt right or on difficulty.

Moreover peace guy, I in my article focused on "knowing" their physical features, not on "looking at them" as you understood.
The aim from that is not to have any kind of cheating, and cheating is haram, and Islam is a deen like a big picture: you look at all of it and understand all of it. Nothing contradicted in it.

May Allah open doors to all our minds to understand our Deen.

Peace Guy

May 25, 2020 21:31

@ Finaladd

My Brother, I mean no disrespect to your beliefs.

My statement meant that if you "know" the size of a woman's hidden parts, then you must have seen or felt them in order to know, and that is reserved for her future husband, only after nika.

If a woman's dimensions are so important to you, then be sure to ask her waliyy to varify her bra size before you ask to marry her. If he still allows you to marry her, then it surely must be from Allah (SWT).

Just as a bit of advice, if you will listen. A woman is more than just a plaything. She has feelings, a will of her own, and even if you are not satisfied with the way Allah created her chest, there is a miracle called silicone which can make any woman look and feel like you desire.

So I suggest that you look a bit deeper into the hidden area of the chest, maybe like the kalb 💗 which represents the personality of a person. Maybe someday you will discover that the dimensions of her deen are more important than the size of her inner garment (with or without enhancement).

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Finaladd

May 26, 2020 00:33

@Peace Guy, I put my answers in line with your comments as previous:

My statement meant that if you "know" the size of a woman's hidden parts, then you must have seen or felt them in order to know, and that is reserved for her future husband, only after nika... If a woman's dimensions are so important to you, then be sure to ask her waliyy to varify her bra size before you ask to marry her. @Peace Guy, Yes, "asking" her or her mother is "knowing" that I focused on previously, but not "seeing" or "feeling". However, it is not Haram if I look at her dressed body. So, can she wear clothes that not change her real body parts' shape and size? Can she not wear anything on her face so that I can know her real features and colors? Can she tell about her capital which is Deen and body the same way I tell about my capital which is Deen and money, frankly?

Just as a bit of advice, if you will listen. A woman is more than just a plaything. She has feelings, a will of her own, and even if you are not satisfied with the way Allah created her chest, there is a miracle called silicone which can make any woman look and feel like you desire. @Peace Guy, I advise you not to adopt your advice, that only orientalists planted to let those who don't understand Islam be doubtful in their Deen. For us Alhadulillah it is rooted in our hearts that when I ask about beauty, I do it comfortably since my Prophet PBUH decided when a man married a woman: (did you see her? .. go and see her) I do what He Himself PBUH did when a woman gifted herself to Him PBUH, He looked at her a lot then moved His eyes away, to express not acceptance. If you think after these Hadeethes that she/they should not be treated this way because she is not a play and that she has feeling, then you should learn your Deen, no offense, because you touched principles, and I am ready to answer your doubts where any, or I need a justification from you to Prophet's doings. There is no any contradiction between both seeking beauty and seeking Deen in a woman. Let me ask you if you want to marry a woman only for personality: Why will you choose women especially, be committed with, and pay Mahr? Can't you surround yourself freely without commitment with the best men personalities with Iman covers them? Your experiment with men will be more reliable since you as a man can judge men more precisely than women, whom you will leave to the silicone doctors. But our Deen Maqsad from partnering with not Mahram is only to secure life for both genders, which requires bodies & souls security, as they have needs and desires. Even non believing psychology studies emphasized that man structure is in paying attention to things, that's why most of engineers and programmers are men, while woman structure is in paying attention to people, that's why most of nurses and kids teachers are women. This is how Fitra works. See this video for evidence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlivpS31pIc

Finally peace guy, if you -or any other person- have your the above belief about marriage, no one blames on you if you apply it on yourself, but not on the society, since our Deen rule is that minority has no power over majority, while majority has. Plus, in our Fiqh, a particular person's marriage is mandatory if he could involve adultery, while it is Haram when he knows himself previously that he will treat her unfair.

As I told previously, our Deen covers all our needs, demands, desires, with no any contradiction. Thank you for enriching the topic, and my apologies if you felt otherwise. I only wanted to explain our Deen's philosophy.

 

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